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July 26, 2008
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Given the stuff I've seen lately (to catch up to the fandom), I would daresay Mr. Whedon (the Joss one) gives us just enough rope (story) to hang ourselves (come up with wild and crazy theories as to what was really what). Is there any better way to bring people into a story than to let them make part of the story themselves? (For those who get irritated by ambiguity, you have to admit that they seem to only become more fanatical about the story.)

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July 26, 2008
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I was musing on this self same \"rope\" that Joss gives us as I was driving to work this morning, mainly because I've been thinking about this 3 act play off and on for 4 days, and I can't seem to get it off my mind.

This time, I was pondering Penny. If you care to look beneath her role in DH as \"the girl\", it would appear, in the real sense of the word, that Penny is the hero. Albeit a dead one, but her actions in the short series grow from a seemingly genuine desire to do a good thing (the homeless shelter), while DH (good-villain) and CH (bad-hero) were functioning from completely different places (feel free to wander off and discuss what those places are amongst yourselves...see you back in a couple of days). While turning right at the police station, and digging through my psyche concerning what makes a hero, Zoe's admonishment to the young man in the trade station (perhaps the younger version of Mal himself) from Firefly popped into my head \"You know what the definition of a hero is? One who get's other people killed.\"

Joss Whedon doesn't provide answers, he asks the same question in different ways, which allows the viewer to think for themselves. Ambiguous, or relentless? It's definitely not repititious.

September 15, 2008
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I'm sure this point has already been made somewhere else.  Penny's role as a hero is also defined by what the individual viewer defines as a 'hero\".  Is a hero someone with perfect hair, a winning smile and super strength who saves people even though it's just for the publicity? Is a hero just someone who helps others? What defines a \"hero\"?  Even though CH acts as a bully, bits of real hero still peek through in the lyrics of \"Everyone's a Hero\" when he tells the audience that everyone's a hero in their own way. That kind of encouragement is 'heroic'.

There will be more pondering on the topic as time goes on.

September 16, 2008
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It's easy to talk the talk. Words of encouragement become oh so hollow when followed by pathetic cowardice. (I doubt CH got little more than a bruise.)

Hero? CH? Nah.

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September 16, 2008
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Herbwoman said:

Even though CH acts as a bully, bits of real hero still peek through in the lyrics of “Everyone's a Hero” when he tells the audience that everyone's a hero in their own way. That kind of encouragement is 'heroic'.


Really? That song always reeked of putting down its audience to me.

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September 17, 2008
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Prissi said:

Really? That song always reeked of putting down its audience to me.


I felt was a putdown on the surface, but he was trying to encourage people, but he was just doing it to solidify his own PR... like pie... which the audience happily ate, top, middle and all... except Penny. She saw the pie for what it was... possibly thanks to Billy's comment, but we'll never know now.

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December 14, 2008
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I personally see a hero as someone who faces up to their own demons despite what others think. Sometimes people think that the Head Cheerleader or the Basketball Star are heros for winning a goal. A true hero in my opinion is the person who says Neigh to the social consensus. Maybe that's the local lone goth, the nerdy kid who eats lunch by themselves, or maybe it's the girl who likes the other boy band then you do.  In this story you are looking for all possible hero's but not getting the right one.

First you have Captain Hammer who is the Super hero. He has Super Strength and agility brains a little slow . He saves Penny but he does it into a garbage pile that you can clearly hear has glass in it.  So needless to say he isn't that heroic at all. He sees woman as nothing more then a object to have sex with. He thinks he is the perfect guy and that he has no flaws what woman in the real world would call a creep.

Then  you have Doctor Horrible who is the Super villian. He robs banks, and does plan to kill Captain Hammer.  However he truly cares about Penny and proves it everytime he mentions her name. He has standards tha most villians don't have. When he tried to kill Captain Hammer he froze and hestitated before the freeze ray stopped.

Next is Penny who is the girl of their obsession.  She helps with the homeless and doesn't eat meat. She volunteers and is portrayed as a truly caring person. However in her first part with Captain Hammer she sings \"It must be shock that I am not loving you to death.\" but she goes out with him. That shock should of told her that he was wrong right there. However she wanted to date him cuz he was a good looking guy. So she was a bit selfish in that sense in my opinion I remind you.

Finally to me the real hero of the whole show outside of DH is Moist. Though Moist is the sidekick persay he is the true hero in all of it. Note that when DH gets his letter he clearly says \"Are you sure you\" to late it gets opened. Then when DH tells him about how he has to kill someone Moist tries to help him. Granted his choices were not angelic as most heros types are but still. He was willing to help a friend no matter what. So in a sense he is a hero of the plot.

I am The Green Dragon I leave no trail behind. I go about my evil deeds without stressing my mind. No one has ever caught up to me as they say. Then again people fear me more and more each day.
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