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8:37 am
July 21, 2008


serenity1222

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posts 33

Tophe said:

Just wondering if Penny’s name was chosen to set up the pun… it cost Billy a Pretty Penny to get into the ELE.


If it wasn’t it SHOULD be!! LOL. Thats pretty clever.

8:46 am
July 21, 2008


pieceofgosa

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Dundee

posts 43

Now I’ve had time to think about it, the significance of the final shot is about perception. In act1, Dr. H saves Penny from the truck that Hammer caused to go out of control & Hammer gets the credit (”what heist were you watching?” ). Whereas the death of Penny is actually Hammers fault (the “hero” has no problem pulling the trigger) & Horrible gets the “credit” for it (a classic Joss inversion). The public perceives Hammer as good, so when good things happen around him, he is the one that causes them. Conversely, Horrible is “evil” so when bad things happen he is to blame. When the last number kicks in we are treated to images of the public perception of the new, uber-evil Doc, emphasised by the mirror image of the opening numbers portrayal of Hammer (news broadcast, newspapers, groupies etc). In the final shot we see (for the first-time) Billy, not Horrible, sitting at his computer screen. The blog is a place where he can be the person he thinks he is (or thinks he wants to be) & now this shell, with the thousand-yard stare & the broken heart is how he perceives himself. All in all the show explored classic Whedon themes, the nature of good, evil and humanity. Very Joseph Conrad & very, very well executed in 45 mins. Oh yeah, tophe, your a genius

3:37 pm
July 21, 2008


novium

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CozZaretta said:

I loved the look on Billy’s face when he realized what accomplishing his dreams cost. His grief was beautiful. I liked seeing the aftermath. He achieved everything he wanted, and it seemed the price was too high. Now he was stuck living in the world he thought he wanted but the reality didn’t seem to live up to what he dreamed. All through the show Billy blogged as Dr. Horrible his ultimate fantasy. The end shot showed him blogging as Billy, perhaps this was his new fantasy. To just be normal again. But, he can’t. He made his choices and must live with them and so shuts down and becomes “Dr. Horrible”.


I'm not a fan of tragic endings, but this one was marvelous. And with the whole love-triangle aspect, and the fatal flaws, it had a certain opera-like quality, a classical tragedy quality… well! It was an extremely unexpected treat during a rather boring summer.


On edit: pieceofgosa, I really think you nailed it .

9:39 am
July 23, 2008


hera2511

Capt.Hammer Groupie

Austin, TX

posts 10

After watching Act 3, I too sat and stared into space, attempting to reconcile all the thoughts and emotions pinging in my brain. And it begins…

Dismay, concern, grief, disbelief, irritation, anger, strong desire to stop thinking about it, followed by random search for alternate missed interpretations, possible reasons why Joss would want to go this dark, what's wrong with dark? wait! dark is always for a reason. what's the reason? Mulling over the various reasons, replaying Acts 1 & 2 in my head, revisiting Act 3, drawing parallels to other Whedon rug-pullers, small side-jaunt/day dreaming that there would be more Dr. Horrible to build back up the Billy that was torn asunder, as Joss has done with other characters, dismay about still being awake, tomorrow's a work day, for crying out loud…off on another tangent about the duality of man, SIR! and Capt. Hammer, and was Penny a strong female character? Was Billy a strong male character? What makes a strong character? Laundry list of characters thought strong. Re-examining Capt. Hammer, how cool was the aggressive declarative of “penis”, just flash-burning all those hammer euphemisms like tissue paper? Musings on the funniest lines (Like a pie!)(get outta town! how was that?), leading to musings of other favorite lines, compare/contrast, female characters without perfect hair…review all Joss characters, Buffy had perfect hair, hmmm, wonder why…holy crap, it's 2 a.m., please, PLEASE just turn off my BRAIN…

Why do these stories do this to me EVERY TIME?

Joss's stories have so many points, they form a sphere.

Ah, all the better for viewing them from all angles.

Wonderful!


12:05 pm
September 15, 2008


Herbwoman

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posts 14

hera2511 said:

Why do these stories do this to me EVERY TIME?



First time I saw this I felt like my heart had been ripped out so i'm right there with you.  Second time I saw it, I was quietly annoyed at other viewers at DragonCon because I couldn't help but feel that we had just sat through 45 minutes of watching the destruction of a human being and THEY were singing :-D

Third time I watched it (on my own after dl'ing from iTunes) I felt a driving desire to moderate a panel on Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog at DragonCon '09.

If I can't get any of the stars I'm thinking of inviting some of the people here that have done some incredible analysis to be on the panel :-D

You're right…this is just like Joss to create a work that creates so very many emotions. It's a wonderful thing.

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